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Debbiepaterson1 — Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:50:49 GMT

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	A. Enter "Right Hon, the Earl of Breadal'''b'''ane" as prefix. The "per" name is a separate individual, who does not get keyed. --[[User:Paulmd199\|Paulmd199]] 20:10, 18 May 2011 (UTC)		A. Enter "Right Hon, the Earl of Breadal'''b'''ane" as prefix. The "per" name is a separate individual, who does not get keyed. --[[User:Paulmd199\|Paulmd199]] 20:10, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
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		+	Q. I have a form type which includes names in the 3 different sections.. "Occupier", "Tenant" and "Inhabitant Occupier not rated" Do i need to key all these names? Using the tenant section? --[[User:Deborah Paterson\|Deborah Paterson]] Posted: 14 Jun 2011 10:19AM (GMT+1)
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		+	A. Yes, key all names. When there are three names on one line, key them all in their own lines. Beware entries in the middle of the three columns, the printed name can be very tiny --[[User:pbridle3\|pbridle3]] Posted: 14 Jun 2011 12:34PM (GMT+1)

Paulmd199: /* Questions and Answers */

Paulmd199 — Wed, 18 May 2011 20:19:46 GMT

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	Q. In an entry of the form "Jane Smith wife of (or widow of) John Smith", do I key John as well as Jane, or just Jane?<br>		Q. In an entry of the form "Jane Smith wife of (or widow of) John Smith", do I key John as well as Jane, or just Jane?<br>
		+	A. It would do no harm to enter John. Though it is possible the entry will be removed by the reviewer. --[[User:Paulmd199\|Paulmd199]] 20:19, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

	Q. I have come across a proprieter "Right Hon, the Earl of Breadalbane, per James Bett, Bolfracks, Aberfeldy" Do I enter "Earl of Breadalbane" as prefix, "James" as proprietor given name, "Bett" as proprietor surname, and nothing as proprietor suffix?		Q. I have come across a proprieter "Right Hon, the Earl of Breadalbane, per James Bett, Bolfracks, Aberfeldy" Do I enter "Earl of Breadalbane" as prefix, "James" as proprietor given name, "Bett" as proprietor surname, and nothing as proprietor suffix?

-	A: Enter "Right Hon, the Earl of Breadal'''b'''ane" as prefix. The "per" name is a separate individual, who does not get keyed. --[[User:Paulmd199\|Paulmd199]] 20:10, 18 May 2011 (UTC)	+	A. Enter "Right Hon, the Earl of Breadal'''b'''ane" as prefix. The "per" name is a separate individual, who does not get keyed. --[[User:Paulmd199\|Paulmd199]] 20:10, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Paulmd199: /* Questions and Answers */

Paulmd199 — Wed, 18 May 2011 20:10:12 GMT

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	Q. In an entry of the form "Jane Smith wife of (or widow of) John Smith", do I key John as well as Jane, or just Jane?<br>		Q. In an entry of the form "Jane Smith wife of (or widow of) John Smith", do I key John as well as Jane, or just Jane?<br>

-	Q. I have come across a proprieter "Right Hon, the Earl of ~~Breadalhane~~, per James Bett, Bolfracks, Aberfeldy" Do I enter "Earl of ~~Breadalhane~~" as prefix, "James" as proprietor given name, "Bett" as proprietor surname, and nothing as proprietor suffix?	+	Q. I have come across a proprieter "Right Hon, the Earl of Breadalbane, per James Bett, Bolfracks, Aberfeldy" Do I enter "Earl of Breadalbane" as prefix, "James" as proprietor given name, "Bett" as proprietor surname, and nothing as proprietor suffix?
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		+	A: Enter "Right Hon, the Earl of Breadal'''b'''ane" as prefix. The "per" name is a separate individual, who does not get keyed. --[[User:Paulmd199\|Paulmd199]] 20:10, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Ardnagreena: /* Questions and Answers */

Ardnagreena — Wed, 18 May 2011 20:04:45 GMT

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	Q. In an entry of the form "Jane Smith wife of (or widow of) John Smith", do I key John as well as Jane, or just Jane?<br>		Q. In an entry of the form "Jane Smith wife of (or widow of) John Smith", do I key John as well as Jane, or just Jane?<br>
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		+	Q. I have come across a proprieter "Right Hon, the Earl of Breadalhane, per James Bett, Bolfracks, Aberfeldy" Do I enter "Earl of Breadalhane" as prefix, "James" as proprietor given name, "Bett" as proprietor surname, and nothing as proprietor suffix?

Chrisdoran1: Added question abour "wife of"

Chrisdoran1 — Wed, 18 May 2011 00:43:25 GMT

Added question abour "wife of"

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	== Questions and Answers ==		== Questions and Answers ==
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	'''If you have a keying question that is not answered on the project page or in any of the information above, click “EDIT” and ask it here. (If you click on Rich Editor you won't have to worry about formatting your entry.) Then click “WATCH” at the top right on this page and you will be notified via email when an update has been made.'''		'''If you have a keying question that is not answered on the project page or in any of the information above, click “EDIT” and ask it here. (If you click on Rich Editor you won't have to worry about formatting your entry.) Then click “WATCH” at the top right on this page and you will be notified via email when an update has been made.'''

-	If you wish to sign your questions (and especially answers) type <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. Or press the signature button. This will automatically insert your name and timestamp. --[[User:Paulmd199\|Paulmd199]] 05:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)	+	If you wish to sign your questions (and especially answers) type <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. Or press the signature button. This will automatically insert your name and timestamp. --[[User:Paulmd199\|Paulmd199]] 05:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

-		+	<br>Q: Suffix 'MD'  means Doctor of Medicine - is it a job description (not to be keyed) or equivalent to 'Dr' (which is keyed) ?
-	Q: Suffix 'MD'  means Doctor of Medicine - is it a job description (not to be keyed) or equivalent to 'Dr' (which is keyed) ?	+

	A: The suffix MD should be keyed, (keyed as MD not M D)		A: The suffix MD should be keyed, (keyed as MD not M D)
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	Question:  How would "Jas. Stewart Robertson of Edradynate and others, trustees of the late John Stewart Hepburn of Colquhalzie, per J. & A. F. Adam, W.F." be entered under the proprietors?		Question:  How would "Jas. Stewart Robertson of Edradynate and others, trustees of the late John Stewart Hepburn of Colquhalzie, per J. & A. F. Adam, W.F." be entered under the proprietors?

-	A: Given name: Jas Stewart; Surname: Robertson. No other entries for the proprietor. --[[User:Paulmd199\|Paulmd199]] 20:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC) In addition a seperate record for John Stewart Hepburn should also be entered. Please see the note covering this in the Perth Hints file.	+	A: Given name: Jas Stewart; Surname: Robertson. No other entries for the proprietor. --[[User:Paulmd199\|Paulmd199]] 20:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC) In addition a seperate record for John Stewart Hepburn should also be entered. Please see the note covering this in the Perth Hints file.

-		+	<br>Q. This is listed on the wiki:  To key 'His Grace, John, Duke of Athole' please enter it this way: <br>Prefix: His Grace / Given: John / Surname: [Blank] / Suffix: Duke of Athole
-	Q. This is listed on the wiki:  To key 'His Grace, John, Duke of Athole' please enter it this way: <br>Prefix: His Grace / Given: John / Surname: [Blank] / Suffix: Duke of Athole	+

	However, the help within the project says to enter it all in the prefix field. Which is correct??<br><br>		However, the help within the project says to enter it all in the prefix field. Which is correct??<br><br>

		+	<br>A. If a given name is included with the title as shown in your query then the full title would be split between the prefix, given name and suffix fields. This is very rare, I have only seen this appear in the record books with regard the Duke of Athole. If the title reads "His Grace the Duke of Athole" this would all be keyed to the prefix field. 99.9% of titles would be keyed this way. If an apparent surname appears in the title this should not be keyed to the surname field, the full title is keyed as a prefix, for example the titles of Lord Gray and Lord Willoughby D'Eresby

-	A. ~~If a given name~~ is ~~included~~ with ~~the title~~ as ~~shown in your query then the full title would be split between the prefix, given name~~ and ~~suffix fields. This is very rare, I have only seen this appear in the record books with regard the Duke of Athole. If the title reads~~ "~~His Grace the Duke of Athole~~" ~~this would all be keyed to the prefix field~~. 99.9% of titles would be keyed this way. If an apparent surname appears in the title this should not be keyed to the surname field, the full title is keyed as a prefix, for example the titles of Lord Gray and Lord Willoughby D'Eresby	+	<br>Q. Sometimes the same proprietor is listed with his own name as a tenant and dittos below or words such as "various". Do I omit those records altogether?<br>

-		+	A. In these instances the proprietor's name only would be keyed, the tenant fields would be left blank. A record would not be keyed however if the proprietor is listed as tenant but also has named tenants. The named tenants only would be keyed.
-	~~Q. Sometimes the same proprietor is listed with his own name as a tenant and dittos below or words such as "various". Do I omit those records altogether?<br>~~	+
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-	A. In these instances the proprietor's name only would be keyed, the tenant fields would be left blank.	+
-	A record would not be keyed however if the proprietor is listed as tenant but also has named tenants. The named tenants only would be keyed.	+

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-	<br>	+	Q. In an entry of the form "Jane Smith wife of (or widow of) John Smith", do I key John as well as Jane, or just Jane?<br>

S2tree: /* Questions and Answers */

S2tree — Fri, 06 May 2011 22:17:14 GMT

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-	A. If a given name is included with the title as shown in your query then the full title would be split between the prefix, given name and suffix fields. This is very rare, I have only seen this appear in the record books with regard the Duke of Athole. If the title reads "His Grace the Duke of Athole" this would all be keyed to the prefix field. 99.9% of titles would be keyed this way.	+	A. If a given name is included with the title as shown in your query then the full title would be split between the prefix, given name and suffix fields. This is very rare, I have only seen this appear in the record books with regard the Duke of Athole. If the title reads "His Grace the Duke of Athole" this would all be keyed to the prefix field. 99.9% of titles would be keyed this way. If an apparent surname appears in the title this should not be keyed to the surname field, the full title is keyed as a prefix, for example the titles of Lord Gray and Lord Willoughby D'Eresby
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	Q. Sometimes the same proprietor is listed with his own name as a tenant and dittos below or words such as "various". Do I omit those records altogether?<br>		Q. Sometimes the same proprietor is listed with his own name as a tenant and dittos below or words such as "various". Do I omit those records altogether?<br>

Paulmd199: /* Questions and Answers */

Paulmd199 — Fri, 06 May 2011 05:50:38 GMT

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	'''If you have a keying question that is not answered on the project page or in any of the information above, click “EDIT” and ask it here. (If you click on Rich Editor you won't have to worry about formatting your entry.) Then click “WATCH” at the top right on this page and you will be notified via email when an update has been made.'''		'''If you have a keying question that is not answered on the project page or in any of the information above, click “EDIT” and ask it here. (If you click on Rich Editor you won't have to worry about formatting your entry.) Then click “WATCH” at the top right on this page and you will be notified via email when an update has been made.'''
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		+	If you wish to sign your questions (and especially answers) type <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. Or press the signature button. This will automatically insert your name and timestamp. --[[User:Paulmd199\|Paulmd199]] 05:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
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	Q: Suffix 'MD'  means Doctor of Medicine - is it a job description (not to be keyed) or equivalent to 'Dr' (which is keyed) ?		Q: Suffix 'MD'  means Doctor of Medicine - is it a job description (not to be keyed) or equivalent to 'Dr' (which is keyed) ?
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	However, the help within the project says to enter it all in the prefix field. Which is correct??<br><br>		However, the help within the project says to enter it all in the prefix field. Which is correct??<br><br>

-	A. If a given name is included with the title as shown in your query then the full title would be split between the prefix, given name and suffix fields. This is very rare, I have only seen this appear in the record books with regard the Duke of Athole. If the title reads "His Grace the Duke of Athole" this would all be keyed to the prefix field. 99.9% of ~~tiltles~~ would be keyed this way.	+
		+	A. If a given name is included with the title as shown in your query then the full title would be split between the prefix, given name and suffix fields. This is very rare, I have only seen this appear in the record books with regard the Duke of Athole. If the title reads "His Grace the Duke of Athole" this would all be keyed to the prefix field. 99.9% of titles would be keyed this way.

	Q. Sometimes the same proprietor is listed with his own name as a tenant and dittos below or words such as "various". Do I omit those records altogether?<br>		Q. Sometimes the same proprietor is listed with his own name as a tenant and dittos below or words such as "various". Do I omit those records altogether?<br>

S2tree: /* Questions and Answers */

S2tree — Fri, 06 May 2011 05:42:42 GMT

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		+	'''If you have a keying question that is not answered on the project page or in any of the information above, click “EDIT” and ask it here. (If you click on Rich Editor you won't have to worry about formatting your entry.) Then click “WATCH” at the top right on this page and you will be notified via email when an update has been made.'''

		+	Q: Suffix 'MD'  means Doctor of Medicine - is it a job description (not to be keyed) or equivalent to 'Dr' (which is keyed) ?
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		+	A: The suffix MD should be keyed, (keyed as MD not M D)
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		+	Question:  How would "Jas. Stewart Robertson of Edradynate and others, trustees of the late John Stewart Hepburn of Colquhalzie, per J. & A. F. Adam, W.F." be entered under the proprietors?
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		+	A: Given name: Jas Stewart; Surname: Robertson. No other entries for the proprietor. --[[User:Paulmd199\|Paulmd199]] 20:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC) In addition a seperate record for John Stewart Hepburn should also be entered. Please see the note covering this in the Perth Hints file.


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-	~~Q: Suffix 'MD'  means Doctor of Medicine - is it a job description (not to be keyed) or equivalent to 'Dr' (which is keyed) ?~~
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-	A: Given name: Jas Stewart; Surname: Robertson. No other entries for the proprietor. --[[User:Paulmd199\|Paulmd199]] 20:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC) In addition a seperate record for John Stewart Hepburn should also be entered. Please see the note covering this in the Perth Hints file.

S2tree: /* Questions and Answers */

S2tree — Fri, 06 May 2011 05:41:02 GMT

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	However, the help within the project says to enter it all in the prefix field. Which is correct??<br><br>		However, the help within the project says to enter it all in the prefix field. Which is correct??<br><br>
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		+	A. If a given name is included with the title as shown in your query then the full title would be split between the prefix, given name and suffix fields. This is very rare, I have only seen this appear in the record books with regard the Duke of Athole. If the title reads "His Grace the Duke of Athole" this would all be keyed to the prefix field. 99.9% of tiltles would be keyed this way.

	Q. Sometimes the same proprietor is listed with his own name as a tenant and dittos below or words such as "various". Do I omit those records altogether?<br>		Q. Sometimes the same proprietor is listed with his own name as a tenant and dittos below or words such as "various". Do I omit those records altogether?<br>
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		+	A. In these instances the proprietor's name only would be keyed, the tenant fields would be left blank.
		+	A record would not be keyed however if the proprietor is listed as tenant but also has named tenants. The named tenants only would be keyed.

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Bgmatthews at 22:11, 4 May 2011

Bgmatthews — Wed, 04 May 2011 22:11:17 GMT

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-	<span style="color: orange;">'''Feel free to add to or edit information in this discussion tab as necessary. Please take time to become familiar with the [http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/index.php?title=World_Archives_Keying_Standards General Keying Standards] and be sure to read all instructions on the main project page. (Please note that in case of a discrepancy, project level instructions always trump general keying standards.)'''</span> __TOC__	+	<span style="color: orange">'''Feel free to add to or edit information in this discussion tab as necessary. Please take time to become familiar with the [http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/index.php?title=World_Archives_Keying_Standards General Keying Standards] and be sure to read all instructions on the main project page. (Please note that in case of a discrepancy, project level instructions always trump general keying standards.)'''</span> __TOC__

-	== Extra Keying Helps ==	+	== Extra Keying Helps ==

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	== Common Keying Errors Found by Reviewers ==		== Common Keying Errors Found by Reviewers ==
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	'''Below is a list of common errors seen in the Perth Valuations project. Please refer to this list after reading the main Wiki page and the [http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/index.php?title=Valuation_Registers_Perth,_Scotland_-_Hints Perth Hints File].'''		'''Below is a list of common errors seen in the Perth Valuations project. Please refer to this list after reading the main Wiki page and the [http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/index.php?title=Valuation_Registers_Perth,_Scotland_-_Hints Perth Hints File].'''

-	<br>	+	<br>

-	==== Keying People, not Businesses or Properties ====	+	==== Keying People, not Businesses or Properties ====

-	<font ~~size="3"~~ color="#228b22">Perth Valuations will be an index of proprietor and tenant names only, not the properties. Any extra information will be able to be seen by the researcher when he/she views the image.</font>	+	<font color="#228b22" size="3">Perth Valuations will be an index of proprietor and tenant names only, not the properties. Any extra information will be able to be seen by the researcher when he/she views the image.</font>

	*Therefore, do not key descriptions such as ''''Trustees of'''' or ''''Heirs of''''		*Therefore, do not key descriptions such as ''''Trustees of'''' or ''''Heirs of''''
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	*If an entry shows ''''per someone'''' this name is not keyed as they represent a company working for the proprietor.		*If an entry shows ''''per someone'''' this name is not keyed as they represent a company working for the proprietor.

-	<br>	+	<br>

-	==== General Keying Tips ====	+	==== General Keying Tips ====

	*The name '''M'Donald''' should be keyed as '''McDonald'''		*The name '''M'Donald''' should be keyed as '''McDonald'''
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	**Prefix: '''His Grace''' / Given: '''John''' / Surname: '''[Blank]''' / Suffix: '''Duke of Athole'''		**Prefix: '''His Grace''' / Given: '''John''' / Surname: '''[Blank]''' / Suffix: '''Duke of Athole'''

-	<br>	+	<br>

-	==== Image and Section Information ====	+	==== Image and Section Information ====

	*Header years should always be expanded to four digits - both years must be keyed.		*Header years should always be expanded to four digits - both years must be keyed.
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	*Many of the images have crossed out data. Please be aware that general keying standards state: ''"If information is crossed out without being replaced, key the crossed-out information. Otherwise, key the replacement information."''		*Many of the images have crossed out data. Please be aware that general keying standards state: ''"If information is crossed out without being replaced, key the crossed-out information. Otherwise, key the replacement information."''

-	<br>	+	<br>

-	==== Tenant and Proprietor Keying ====	+	==== Tenant and Proprietor Keying ====

	*Do not key a proprietor name with the tenant fields empty and then key the same proprietor with a tenant. One line will suffice to cover both proprietor and tenant.		*Do not key a proprietor name with the tenant fields empty and then key the same proprietor with a tenant. One line will suffice to cover both proprietor and tenant.

-	<br>	+	<br>

	*If the proprietor and tenant are the same person please key the persons name in the proprietor fields only.		*If the proprietor and tenant are the same person please key the persons name in the proprietor fields only.
	**This rule also applies when the name is stated slightly differently, but suggests the same person.		**This rule also applies when the name is stated slightly differently, but suggests the same person.
-	***ie: When the proprietor reads ''''Christina Murray'''' and the tenant reads ''''said Miss Murray'''' -- do not key the tenant name.	+	***ie: When the proprietor reads ''''Christina Murray'''' and the tenant reads ''''said Miss Murray'''' -- do not key the tenant name.
	**Furthermore, when the tenant column includes any of the following words: ''''aforesaid'''' or ''''said'''' or ''''proprietor'''' -- do not key the tenant name, as it is the same person as the proprietor.		**Furthermore, when the tenant column includes any of the following words: ''''aforesaid'''' or ''''said'''' or ''''proprietor'''' -- do not key the tenant name, as it is the same person as the proprietor.

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	*When there are two named proprietors with a number of tenants, please key the first proprietor's name once against the first tenant, with the remaining tenants keyed against the second proprietor name only.		*When there are two named proprietors with a number of tenants, please key the first proprietor's name once against the first tenant, with the remaining tenants keyed against the second proprietor name only.
	**The last proprietor on a list of proprietors should be copied down to match the number of tenants - all other proprietors on the list should only have their name keyed once		**The last proprietor on a list of proprietors should be copied down to match the number of tenants - all other proprietors on the list should only have their name keyed once

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	*If a proprietor and tenant combination appear further down a section page and have already been keyed then they do not need to be keyed again.		*If a proprietor and tenant combination appear further down a section page and have already been keyed then they do not need to be keyed again.

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	'''Adapted from message posts by s2tree and pbridle3.'''		'''Adapted from message posts by s2tree and pbridle3.'''
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-	~~Q. Proprietor is listed as Mrs. Amelia and James Valentine Hagart. How do I list this?~~

		+	Q. This is listed on the wiki:  To key 'His Grace, John, Duke of Athole' please enter it this way: <br>Prefix: His Grace / Given: John / Surname: [Blank] / Suffix: Duke of Athole

		+	However, the help within the project says to enter it all in the prefix field. Which is correct??<br><br>

	Q. Sometimes the same proprietor is listed with his own name as a tenant and dittos below or words such as "various". Do I omit those records altogether?<br>		Q. Sometimes the same proprietor is listed with his own name as a tenant and dittos below or words such as "various". Do I omit those records altogether?<br>