Talk:World Archives Project: Oklahoma, Indian and Pioneer Historical Collection and Index
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Extra Keying Helps
Common Keying Errors Found by Reviewers
Key only the city in the residence city field.
Key ALL of the birth place in birth place field.
Key only family members on the subsequent interview page.
If there is a date use interview page. If there is no date, use subsequent interview page.
Pages that only have a name at the top of the page should be classified as a 'cover page'.
Please do not key names from these cover pages. http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:OklaIndianProj_Index.jpg
Do not key the word 'County' in the birth place field.
Do not key prefixes in the given field.
Do not key suffixes in the surname field.
Questions and Answers
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Q: Do we key in cemetery inscriptions as burial pages or as cover page entries? They usually have multiple names per page listed at a burial ground.
- A: Is there a name at the top of the page (interviewee)? If so it would be keyed as a burial page or subsequent burial page. --Wiedwoman 18:35, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Q: The header is: Carselowey, James R. - Cemeteries - Cherokee - McLaughlin. Below are all inscriptions of gravestones - there are multiples per page plus multiple pages - I've had whole sets with just these inscriptions. Advise?
- A: Are they family members? --Wiedwoman 22:19, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- A: Nope.
- Q: Is McLaughlin the beginning record? And if so are there other McLaughlins on the record? --Wiedwoman 02:35, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
A: There are no McLaughlins on these cemetery inscriptions - I thought perhaps McLaughlin was the name of the cemetery. They are just rough transcriptions of grave markers, some with no last names or no dates. I assume this Carselowey was the transcriber. I'm putting them all as "cover" pages for now - they don't seem to fit the info of the burial pages.
Q: "Employee" is a valid relationship in the keying tool for this project. Do we key employees of the person being interviewed when listed?
- A: No. We are only keying the names of family members. --Wiedwoman 22:05, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Q: Even though the instructions only exclude the interviewer, we are not keying other people named in the stories (e.g. neighbors, clergy, teachers, etc.)?
- A: Same as answer from above.--Wiedwoman 04:27, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
I would love to see this project changed so we type an entire interview. Just gets interesting and you move to another one.
Q: If a narrative in a Subsequent Interview Page is not explicit in stating who is being interviewed, does it get labeled as a Cover Page? I have a full page of narrative, with names mentioned, but they are mentioned in 3rd person, and I have seen pages where the only name along the top is actually the interviewer's name.
- A: I would think when an interviewers name is at the top of the page that we would key the main character of the narrative and their relatives. --Wiedwoman 07:46, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Q: I have come across two interviewers who are listed as Mrs Husband's first name and last name. Since no prefix Do I put Mrs M C in given name place. If we don't it will look like the husband is being interviewed/
- A: Use [blank] as her given name with another record for her husband. --Wiedwoman 18:17, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Q: Instructions are to not key the interviewer, however... I have a narrative written from the interviewer's perspective AND the interviewer is related to the person the narrative is about. What happens then? Does the interviewer get keyed, since he is actually related, and also has written the interview as if he, himself, has been interviewed?
- A: Yes, in this case we would key the interviewer as the orignal record. --Wiedwoman 02:17, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Q: If an interview's Page 2 (or subsequent page) doesn't indicate who it is about, but is directly following (in the same image set) a page with the name of the person it's about, can that information be carried over (unlike normal keying rules) IF there is irrefutable evidence that it IS the very next page in the narrative? (I have one of these, currently) If that is not allowed, must it be labeled a cover page?
- A: Data should not be carried over from one image to the next. If there is data that you can determine is related to the individual being interviewed it should be keyed. For example, if the record states that they were "born on September 20" you would mark the name fields [Blank] (Ctrl+B) and enter the birth date information. We are able to associate the records from one page to the next when we process the data. Another example is if the record states, "Their father, Jack Anderson lived in..." You would enter Jack Anderson in the name fields and Father in the Relationship field. Annafechter 21:21, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Q: If an interview's Page 2 (or subsequent page) has a narrative that does not indicate who it is about, and does NOT directly follow a page we could glean information from, do we label it as a cover page? (I suspect the next 4-image set following the one I am doing now will have some of these)
- A: See the answer above. Annafechter 21:21, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
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My opinion: This entire project needs to be redone later to include all names in the records. A lot of subsequent interview pages, I know, are still talking about family members, but I can't key them as such because I can't assume anything from the page I'm on when relationships are not specifically stated. Right now I am keying a history of Sequoyah by his ggg-grandson, but on the 2nd page, it doesn't state this relationship. It only gives the interviewee's name at top and the continuation of Sequoyah's marriages and children. But, since this is not the interviewee's wives and children, and I cannot assume anything, I cannot key a wealth of wonderful information. Also, a lot of interviews are about town histories, gangs, tribe histories, etc, and we cannot key any names because they are not relatives. Please tell me we can redo this project at a later date!! ~lrs~
I agree, there is a huge amount of information being skipped because of the way this is being keyed. If it isn't redone later, I would hazard a guess that some other group, outside of Ancestry.com's purvey, will do these records more completely, and Ancestry will miss out on the kudos and potential funds they would have received otherwise. (MAB)